Description: (this is a different interview than in the video, but it gives you some idea)
http://www.trance-formation... http://dragonkeypress.com/b...Interview with Mark Philips
By Tracy R. Twyman
Mark Philips is Cathy O'Brien's husband, and co-author with her of The Trance-formation of America. He claims to have rescued her and hr daughter Kelly from mind-controlled sex slavery.
TT: How did you come to know about mind control and Project Monarch?
Mark: Well, Project Monarch - that information I'll have to relate a little bit later on in this answer. I became acquainted with mind control - certainly not trauma-based mind control, that what something that I was just aware of, but I had absolutely no interface with it whatsoever. I worked in a variety of positions working closely with the intelligence community. The Central Intelligence Agency was one of those communities. The others I can't really go into any detail over because I did sign an oath of secrecy. However, I worked in the capacity as a Defense Department subcontractor, so I'm not bound by the same oaths as would be someone who worked strictly military. I became acquainted with mind control, or external control of the mind through just association with now declassified information that was acquired at the Primate Center in Atlanta, and out in Colorado, and at various other Defense Department subcontracting installations that were researching, and doing what I call "mind mapping." I use that term loosely. I don't think that is a real term. But that's really how I became aware of mind control, and how it was being used, particularly within the Soviet Union. This was during the late 60s and early 70s, when there were large masses of people in certain places within the Soviet Union, primarily within Russia proper, that were being used for a variety of methodisms, including just normal information control. They were more or less sequestered from the rest of the population of the country at the time, and all of the information that they were fed was very controlled, and very contrived. There were also a number of studies going on in the area of genetics, and I was not privy to any of those specifically. That was how I became acquainted with one of the projects. There were about 120 odd projects that I was aware of, and I recall the names of about a dozen or two of them. But Project Monarch was one that was used, actually one of the smaller ones. They were not using specifically blond-haired, blue-eyed people - you know the Nazi mentality-type family genetic line. They weren't following that specifically. They were more or less staying within the blond-haired areas, but they were using people of all mixed nationalities. And Project Monarch was one that was used in Michigan, Pennsylvania, small parts of Ohio within a number of religious sect groups there, as well as in California - in Northern California, particularly. Beyond that, I don't know of any other place where Project Monarch was an active project. There has been some information released, but the name of Project Monarch has never, ever been declassified, and since I did not work in that project, I can talk about it, because it's hearsay. It has never been a term that has shown up in any Freedom of Information Act documents. All the genetic research that I know about, with regards to MK-ULTRA, for instance - none of the Project names have been released, that I know of.
TT: And besides blond hair, what other genetic qualities were they looking for?
Mark: They were also looking for a lot of bone structure. They were looking primarily at the family involved. Even though I wasn't aware that they were specifically targeting multi-generational incest, I knew that they were looking at families. Particularly the twin studies I was aware of, and I was also aware of the research that was specifically targeting persons or families that had at least two generations of very specific artistic capabilities that seemed to be genetically encoded. It was pretty benign stuff, frankly, and it certainly did not prepare me for what I ran into in 1988 when I met Cathy O'Brien.
TT: How did you meet Cathy, and what did you think when you first met her?